Friday, August 24, 2018

 

Goldfoot Generations: Going Back 10 Generations: How Much DNA % ? How Many Ancestors?


Here we are today in 2018.    A generation = ABOUT 25 years.  
                           
Elsie Eichman nee Goldfoot b: 1911 sister of Maurice Goldfoot
                   
Zlata Goldfoot nee Jermulowske b: 1886 Lazdijai, Suwalki, Lithuania/Poland
wife of Nathan Goldfoot
Me, Nadene Goldfoot b: 1934
                       
Ann Oster nee Goldfoot
b: 1912, sister of Maurice
Charlie Goldfoot
b: 1906, brother of Maurice Goldfoot 
Nathan Goldfus/Goldfoot b: 1871
Telsiai, Lithuania 
David Goldfoot b: 1942, my brother

Mildred Goldfoot nee Robinson, my mother

Maurice Goldfoot b: 1908; me 1934





















                                                                                                                                 
1 generation ago we had 2 ancestors; 1 mother and 1 father,  50% DNA from each parent
 (25 years ago)  born 1908 and 1913
MAURICE GOLDFOOT AND MILDRED ELIZABETH ROBINSON

2 gen. ago we had 4 ancestors;  2 females (grandmothers and 2 males grandfathers, 25% per grandparent
50 years ago- 1871 AND 1886-bornin Telsiai, Lithuania  and Lazdijai, Suwalki, Lithuania/Poland
NATHAN ABRAHAM GOLDFOOT AND ZLATA JERMULOWSKE

3 gen. ago we had 8 ancestors;   4 females and 4 males, 12.5% per ggrandparent.
(75 years ago, 1836 AND 1839 ?
MOVSHA BEN JOSEL  GOLDFUS and BEILA ?

4 gen ago we had 16 ancestors;  8 females and 8 males, 6.25% per gggrandparent
100 years ago - 1798  ?
IOSEL SIMCHA BEN YANKEL GOLDFUS and RASHA ?

5 gen. ago we had 32 ancestors, 16 females and 16 males, 3.12% per ggggrandparent 
125 years ago-1768, 1778
IANKEL BEN ABRAM GOLDFUS and KHANA ?

6 gen ago we had 64 ancestor; 32 females and 32 males , 1.5625% per gggggrandparent
150 years ago- 1752  still in Telsii, Lithuania
ABRAM GOLDFUS and UNKNOWN

7 gen ago we had 128 ancestors, 64 females and 64 males, 0.78125% per ggggggrandparent
175 years ago- 1730-in Telsiai, Lithaania
IONES JONAH GOLFUS and UNKNOWN

8 gen ago we had 256 ancestors, 128 females and 128 males, 0.390625% per gggggggrandparent
200 years ago-1700

9 gen ago we had 512 ancestors, 256 females and 256 males, 0.1953125% per ggggggggrandparent,
225 years ago-1670

10 gen ago we had 1,024 ancestors, 512 females and 512 males; 0.09765625% per gggggggggrandparent;  250 years ago?  1645.

 This would take me to Rabbi Samson Wertheimer, born in 1658 in Worms, Germany and died in 1724 in Vienna, Austria  who other people in the Halpern & Branches group on FTDNA also happen to match.   He would have been my 9th grandparent.   His children would have been my 9th cousins, quite possibly.  I have no idea how we are connected, though.  After knowing who my 1st cousins are and a few 2nd cousins,

  I know nothing more about distant cousins except one; finding Grant Gochin on my tree from Papile, Lithuania, his ancestors.  He's my brother's  4th to remote cousin.  I missed getting the genes.  

 11 gen ago we had 2, 048 ancestors, 1,024 females and 1.024 males; 0.04882814%

 At this rate, it is said that all Ashkenazis are at least 30th cousins to each other.  Anyone want to figure out how far back in what year this would take us to?  Hope to 70 CE.  

When did our family start living in Lithuania?  Possibly in the 700s...from Germany
"As early as the 8th century Jews lived in parts of the Lithuanian territory.[citation needed] Beginning with that period they conducted trade between Russia, Lithuania, and the Baltic, especially Jomsborg (Vineta or Wollin, in Pomerania), and other cities on the Vistula, Oder, and Elbe.[citation needed]
The origin of the Jews of Lithuania has been the subject of much speculation. It is believed that they were made up of two distinct streams of Jewish immigration. The older and significantly smaller of the two entered the territory that would later become the Grand Duchy of Lithuania from the east. These early immigrants spoke Judeo-Slavic dialects which distinguished them from the later Jewish immigrants who entered the region from the Germanic lands." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Lithuania.  

How Jewish families differ from others is that we are so ENDOGAMOUS.  We keep marrying into the same families because we were not marrying outside of the faith.  It happened, but rarely, making us a group that DNA scientists love to study.  Our % of DNA inherited is affected by this.  We keep on getting the same segments of DNA passed onto us.  DNA is passed from one generation to the next in groups, pieces that stick together.  There may be little lost in a segment from father to son.  It's interesting, or the whole segment could be missed.

I found that Nathan's 1st wife was not with him when he left Londonderry Port in Ireland in 1893 heading for Canada.  Mike Posnick found Nathan on www.findmypast emigrating from Londonderry, Ireland in 1893 to Quebec Canada port. The ship was the Parisian steamship of the Allan Line.   He was 22 years old.  An Abraham, Lina, Rachel, and Sarah left in 1894 from Liverpool and Londonderry.  Only 47 people were on this small ship.  In Find My Past, there were 3 ships leaving Londonderry for Canada in 1893.  The ship "Vancouver" left two time; 16th June 1893 and 21st July 1893.  The Labrador left 15 Sept 1893.  I bet it was the Vancouver, and that's how he got to Portland.  .

Lina was on a ship in 1894, the Mongolian, heading for Winnipeg, Canada from Ireland, being born there.  Here is a video about Winnipeg's Jewish community.  https://www.nfb.ca/film/jews_of_winnipeg/
She was listed as a Spinster at age 32 then; Lina Goldfoot.  Before marriage she was Lena Goldberg.  , daughter of Naftali Goldberg.
Updated 8/27/2018 

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Sunday, August 12, 2018

 

Prague: Possible Meeting Place For an "Impossible" DNA Match: Jew and Gentile




      Nadene Goldfooat                                                 

We have a DNA match found on GedMatch.com that must go way back to Prague, as her ancestors were from Bohemia. I'm talking about my only grandson's other grandma.   I'm trying to figure out how far back it goes, so it's important to look at the history of Jews in Prague. This is the first match outside of the Pale of Settlement and goes back much farther.   

 Her DNA matches 7 of us in our family.  The largest total on one of us was 30.5cMs.  The largest segment was 6.1cMs.  She had 11 matching segments with 10 of them under 5cMs.  The largest SNP was 877.  I have a feeling that each of us had our own pathway of matching this lady.  
                                                   The Jews in Rome thus wound up in Northern Italy, and from there spread out to Bohemia, Moravia and Poland.  Prague, Bohemia/Czechoslovakia, Cracow, Poland which is near the Czech Republic  and Lublin, Poland became Jewish centers after such German centers in Worms and Mainz, Germany in the 1000s.  
                                                             
Prague
.  The area of Prague  became the seat of the dukes, and later kings of Bohemia.  Prague contained an important slave market.  Jews had come to Prague in the 10th century as traders.   
                                                     
Duke Wenceslaus I (921-935) became a saint.  

 Prague was an important seat for trading where merchants from all of Europe settled, including many Jews, as recalled in 965 by the Hispano-Jewish merchant and traveller Ibrahim ibn Ya'qub.  Under Holy Roman Emperor Otto II the area became a bishopric in 973. Jews fought against the attacks of the Crusaders there in 1096.  They suffered from severe persecution and many were forcibly baptized by the Christians.  Things got a little better by the 12th century.  
                                                   

Until Prague was elevated to archbishopric in 1344, it was under the jurisdiction of the Archbishopric of Mainz, Rhineland (Germany).  The Old New Synagogue of 1270 still stands.   
                                                            

Today of course,  Prague is the capital of the Czech Republic.  It used to be called Czechoslovakia. Many Jews had fled to Czechoslovakia from eastern Europe at the time of the Chmielnicki pogroms of 1648 in Poland when 744 Jewish communities were wiped out, but ghetto regulations continued to be enforced and even the number of marriages were restricted by law.  Maria Theresa decreed in 1744 the general expulsion of Jews. Jews were then fully exiled from 1745 to 1748, and were only allowed to return after promising to pay exorbitant taxes.  They had to continue to live in ghettos.  By 1848, the Jews of Prague were granted full equality and 4 years later in 1852 the ghetto was abolished.  
                                                    
Bohemian cultural Region 
This is when Jews became interested in the German culture and less about the Czech culture.  Then the geography changed, because in 1938, 15,000 Jews from the Sudenten district (The Sudetenland is the historical German name for the northern, southern, and western areas of former Czechoslovakia which were inhabited primarily by Sudeten Germans) ceded to Germany and sought refuge in Prague.  Anti-Semitism was running rampant in Germany by then.  A month later, the liquidation of the Prague Jewish community began.  There were 65,000 Jews in Prague in 1942 with about 25,000 being refugees and all were exterminated by 1945.  

What amazes me is that there was a small Jewish community there with 1,400 Jews , subservient to the Communist regime who had taken over until the 1989 revolution.  Since 1989, Jews have been living without malice, probably up until now since it's spreading all over the world again.  Tourists have been coming and viewing the magnificently preserved synagogues and cemeteries, rare finds in Europe as the 2nd World War destroyed so many.  

Resource:  https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/jewish-printing/
The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/roman-rule-63bce-313ce
https://www.jta.org/1969/04/10/archive/prague-daily-warns-of-mounting-anti-semitism-in-czechoslovakia-asks-ban
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39973195

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